Old One Eye and Red Terror

[Adoni-Zedek]

Has anyone come up with 2nd Ed Stats for these unique characters? I was thinking I'd include them as 1 per 5000 points. Not that I'm planning on playing a battle that big, but Sometimes we do campaigns where you put together so many points for your total army, and then put together sub-armies of a given size for each battle in the campaign.

If you don't have 2nd Ed stats, can you tell me the 3rd Ed Stats, and I'll try to convert.

Thanks!

[El Capitan]

i looked at these before, but couldnt be bothered converting them across, lazy me

ive got the stats somewhere from 3rd but would have to dig them out

[James 40K Champ ***]

I like the idea of that style of campaign

[tturen]

Our oldest Nid player came up with stats for Old One Eye and used him but that player is not available for a month or so as he is working in another state. Can't recall the stats and such he used off hand.

[Yarlen Fireblade]

3rd edition rules for both Tyranid special characters.

"The Red Terror" 104 points, requires a Tyranid force of at LEAST 1500 points.

WS - 6
BS - 0
S- 5
T - 5
W - 3
I - 3
A - 3+2
LD - 10
Save - 3+

Weapon - Two sets of Scything Talons, may not be armed with different weapons or mutated in any way.

Special rules
'Deep Strike'
'Fast' - The Red Terror moves 9" in hte movement phase & can make an assault move up to 9", when rolling for distance moved through difficult terrain add +3 to the highest roll.
The Red Terror also roll 3D6 for fallback and pursuit distances.
(In other words it's really fast & doesn't care much for terrain)
'Tyranid Monsterous creature'
'Swallow Whole' - If the Red Terror hits with 4 or more attacks in the assault phase it can choose a single enemy model in base-to-base contact and swallow it whole.
The Terror scores no other hits if it swallows an enemy, the swallowed model is removed as a casualty no roll to wound is made armour & invulnerable saves do not apply and wargear such as bionics cannot save the victim.

Cannot swallow any model with Strength and/or Toughness 5 or more.
Cannot swallow bikes or cavalry
Cannot swallow anything with an armour value.

[Yarlen Fireblade]

Old One Eye - 164 points.

WS - 4
BS - 2
S - 10
T - 6
W - 4
I - 2
A - D6+1
LD - 10
2+ save

Weapons, pair of Scything Talons, pair of specially mutated Gigantic Crushing Claws.

Special Rules
'Monsterous Creature'
'Gigantic Crushing Claws' - Gives old one eye D6 +1 attacks in close combat, or D6+2 when charging due to additional Scything Talons.
'Regenerate' - at the end of each Tyrnaid turn old one eye will regenerate a lost wound upto it's maximum starting wounds of 4, when OOE is killed mark the spot where he was killed and roll a D6 at the end of the next Tyranid turn.
On the roll of a 4+ OOE rears back ot it's feet (with 1 wound remaining) and will engage an enemy if they are within 3".
The roll of a 1-3 OOE is down for the remainer of the game and is treated as a casualty/destroyed.

Remember these are rules for 3rd edition, 99% of the time they do not translate directly to 2nd edition.

[Adoni-Zedek]

Thanks, Yarlen!

Yeah, otherwise Old One Eye would be far worse than a regular carnifex. I'll definitely adjust the stats, abilities, and points for 2nd Ed.

[Simon]

Basically you could make it off a carnifex with 2 Biomorphs and reduce his BS to compensate. Gigantic Crushing Claws = Sharpened Claws Morph, Regeneration is obvious

[Yarlen Fireblade]

Carnifexes have BS in 3rd & 4th edition because you can actually give them ranged weapons, they're not specifically built to tackle tanks and cut infantry to pieces like in 2nd ed.