Psycers..

[James 40K Champ ***]

can they cast powers from within transports?

(obviously not line of sight powers)

[Adoni-Zedek]

I would say yes. They should be able to use any power that doesn't require actual line of sight to the target (unless they're using it on a fellow transportee in the same vehicle)

[James 40K Champ ***]

can imagine luke trying to cast vortex from within a landraider

[tturen]

Troopers can shoot from vehicles so I suppose a psyker could as well through an open hatch just like the troopers.

[Adoni-Zedek]

Vortex is one that sort of requires line of sight, though. It travels in a straight line, affecting all in its path. Therefore, it would affect the landraider before it affects anything else.

[James 40K Champ ***]

yeah, i was being silly

[tturen]

If the caster is hanging out the right hatch (I haven't looked that closely at a Raider latetly.) it still could be possible. I don't think it should happen but the way the rules are written in some vehicles this can be done.

[James 40K Champ ***]

I didnt even realise troopers can shoot out of enclosed vehicles? :s

I presume that excludes heavy weapons thou

[tturen]

Even heavy weapon troops can fire from vehicles but only if the vehicle has not moved.

[James 40K Champ ***]

This is all new to me.. which vehicles can troops fire from? Is there a limitation to how many troops can fire?

Surley it would be a bit mental mounting a devastator squad in a land raider with loads of armour on and using it as a fortress?!? :S

[Adoni-Zedek]

Here’s a quote from the BattleBible:

Models being transported in a vehicle may fire their weapons as normal during the shooting phase if the vehicle is open-topped — if enclosed, the availability of firing depends on the location of access hatches, gun ports, etc. Both players should agree before the game about how many shots are allowed from where on all vehicles to be played with.

This doesn’t allow much firing from most imperial vehicles, as they have no firing slits, (well, the rhino has two in the front, but I figure the driver is looking out one of them, so one marine can fire) unless you count the top hatches. If you do, presumabaly a transported psycher could stick his/her/its head up and unleash a vortex. But that seems rather iffy. I'd allow any "strikes first model in path" or "affects all models in a straight line" powers, but not any moving template powers, like Vortex, Death Wave, or Destructor.

Along these lines, do any eldar or tau vehicles have any obvious firing slits or hatches? I don't think any other races have enclosed transports. Orks? no. Tyranids? heck no! Necrons? no. Dark Eldar? no. I think all the other races use imperial vehicles.

This is an optional vehicle upgrade, also from the BattleBible:
Universal Weapons Ports
+3 points per port
The vehicle’s hull has been modified slightly to include carefully-tucked-away gun ports all over. Any models inside the vehicle may fire their personal ranged weapons through these gun ports in any direction they choose without risk of being hit from enemy fire.

I take this to be a universal pintle mount, rather like the one on top of a rhino, predator, or land raider. So for +3 points, any one model being transported may fit his/her/its weapon into the mount, and fire as normal. As with the Chaos Twin-bolter upgrade, marines firing their personal bolters/bolt pistols from a universal weapons port may rapid fire if the vehicle moves at slow speed. I don’t think terminators are capable of using their weapons in such a port; Terminator armor isn’t that flexible, and the weapons are attached to the armor.

[tturen]

Most of the vehicles will allow firing mainly from hatches. Tau transports have three with one on the top and one on each side. They do not have seperate firing ports.

The Nids have a transport I think but its forgeworld.

3pt ports are strictly a house rule.

Anybody who puts heavy weapons in a transport deserves to have them destroyed along with the vehicle. Besides as a house rule I would say that if a heavy weapon model is firing from a vehicle then he can be targted seperatly from the vehicle because the vehicle was stationary and he was exposed.

[Simon]

The nids do have a transport. It's the Harridan and it carries gargoyle broods, which wouldn't make much of a difference to aerial combat... The closest thing on the ground is the trygon, but that just clears a path for other nids to follow down. That is unless you want to include genestealer cults in that...

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we play that orks fire their heavy weapon in open top vehicles. even if they move. so situation where truck with four mega-armoured nobz packing lascans moves forward and hits on 4+ or worse. i don't mind as the opposite player with a win on my mind.

rhino has hatches in both side doors and the front has an option to put either one hatch (taken by driver) or two.