Wargear help please!

[LukeG]

That's one of those obvious ones I never thought of before, but I still probably wouldn't do it. I like tweeking my support characters to being 50 points or less, and therefore not worth any VP's An Apothecary can have either a special or combi weapon, or an assault set up along the lines of chainsword/krak grenades/refractor feild to live longer or just a damn power fist, and not be worth any VP's. Apart from the 50 point expenditure (something you normally see and just buy a pointless rhino) it becomes a free troop that can still have an impact on the battlefeild.

I wonder if anyone ever spotted that 2nd ed loophole and moved to exploit it... A 100 point captain and 18 50point or less Apothacaries and techmarines tooled up with Meltaguns or powerfists (more for the techmarines) and stormed the battlefeild with the equivalent of two Veteran squads worth no VP's. It'd be bloody weird...

[Adoni-Zedek]

If you take them separately, you have 93 points of characters worth 0 Victory Points. If you take a techmarine with a medikit, you have a 53 point character worth 1 VP. Assuming you take jumppacks. Personally, I keep them seperate. Not so much because of the VP consideration, but because I may want to repair a vehicle and heal troops at the same time. I like to take two apothecaries just to be able to bring back more troops. I once had two apothecaries bring back two terminators in one turn (yes, I know, the OGC doesn't let medipacks work on termies, but the wargear card and the rules make no distinction between the target's armor). Since I only had one terminator standing, adding two more put me back over 50% squad size, denying my opponent 2 VP.

[carcerdominus]

That is the reason we did away with victory points years ago now you get points for many points of the other guy's army you take out we total it up and see who has the most. This started years ago when a guy in our group brought out a gretchin army. he lost his first battle hand down but won in victory points because no one in his army was more than 50 points. most squads included.

[El Capitan]

Our counter is the limit on characters. As it is though, a lot of the points systems in 40k have been bent around the VP system, I first realised this with weapons costs in marine lists, the less effective combo's usually fall under the VP brackets almost exactly, and it was a big factor in scoring the points for the Necrons.